missing husbands ?? - Bristol, Somerset

Large monument with the recumbent effigy of Joan Wadham (1533-1603), lying above her family .

"Here lyes the bodies of Sir John Young knight and Dame Joan his wyfe. By him she yssued Robert, Jane and Margaret. She was fyreste marryed to Sir Gyles Straingwayes knight by whome shee had yssue John, Edward, George, Nicholas, Ann and Elizabeth. She was daughter to John Wadham esquire and she departed this mortall lyfe the 14th June 1603 aged 70 yeeres".

Joan was a daughter of Sir John Wadham 1578 of Merryfield, Ilton, Somerset and Edge, Branscombe, Devon, 2nd husband of Joan 1583 widow of John Kellaway 1513 who share a monument at Branscombe www.flickr.com/gp/52219527@N00/1g06v0b165 - her mother was the daughter of John Tregarthin / Tregarthen & Jane daughter of John Trethurffe / Tretherf, & Elizabeth Courtenay

Joan was a sister of
A. Nicholas Wadham (1531–1609) who with his wife Dorothy Petrie flic.kr/p/96mKfT were co-founders of Wadham College, Oxford.
B. Florence 1538 - 1597 wife of John Wyndham 1572 flic.kr/p/96qFQ7 of Watchet,
C.. Margaret bc1540 - d pre 1611 wife of Nicholas Martyn 1596 at Puddletown flic.kr/p/96bhhH

She m1 1546 Giles 1528 - 1562 of Melbury Sampford, Dorset, www.flickr.com/gp/52219527@N00/cn3Z002E66 Heir to his grandfather his grand-father Sir Giles Strangeways 1546.; Son of Henry Strangways and Margaret, sister of Thomas 1st Earl of Rutland; Widow of Robert Heneage ; Daughter of George Manners, Lord Ros & Anne St Leger flic.kr/p/ebUaDY sole heiress daughter Thomas St. Leger by Anne Plantagenet Duchess of Exeter www.flickr.com/photos/52219527@N00/8658804820/ eldest surviving daughter of Richard 3rd Duke of York by Cecily Neville daughter of Ralph Neville, 1st Earl of Westmorland & 2nd wife Joan Beaufort flic.kr/p/reCiQf flic.kr/p/qkb5pi
Giles was the grandson of Sir Giles Strangways flic.kr/p/gRZsih and Joan daughter of Sir John Mordaunt by Edith Greene Latimer flic.kr/p/hWxst3
Children - 4 sons & 2 daughters
1. Sir John Strangways 1548 - 1593of Melbury Sampford m Dorothy 1551 - 1592 daughter of John Thynne & Christian daughter of Richard Gresham by Audrey Lynn (Dorothy was the sister of Anne wife of John Coles (1607) at Pitminster flic.kr/p/u4LwkN )
2. Edward b 1552
3. George b 1557 m Ursula 1607 daughter of Richard Sydenham of Wynford Eagle
4. Nicholas 1560 - 1639 m (3rd husband) Lady Elizabeth Berkeley dsp 1613 sole child of Brice Berkeley & Anne daughter and co-heir of Thomas Whittington; Widow of Edward Berkeley of Bradley Court, son of John Berkeley of Cam; & Sir Edward Berkeley, 2nd son of Sir Maurice Berkeley of Bruton
1. Anne b 1554 *** m Robert Bridgeman
2. Elizabeth c1559–29 January 1587 m John Buller 1598 of Lillesdon

(Giles owned extensive estates in Dorset, including the site of the monastery of Abbotsbury. Through his wife his heirs acquired rights to considerable property in Somerset, which he himself did not live to enjoy. He also owned lands in Yorkshire, whence the family had moved to Dorset in the 15c. A license to alienate was granted in Oct 1546, viz. 'Sir Giles Strangeways to Sir Hugh Paulet... John Sydenham of Brympton... to the use of the said Sir Giles for Life'... He was a protestant during Edward VI's reign, when he served as a commissioner for church goods. After Mary's accession he came up to London to render an account of his proceedings in the latter capacity. He was one of those who ‘stood for the true religion’ in the Oct 1553 Parliament, and in 1555 he opposed a government bill, but he must have given the Marian government general support in the county, as he continued to serve on the Dorset commission of the peace and his wardenship of Neroche forest was renewed by a patent of Nov 1555. In 1557 he commanded 50 men in the expedition of William Herbert, 1st Earl of Pembroke, to St. Quentin. Sir William Courtenay, who died on the campaign, appointed him an executor.
Giles lived and died extravagantly . In June 1555 he surrendered himself to the Fleet to avoid outlawry for debts that included over £100 to 2 London tailors. He sold 700 ewes, 600 wethers and 300 hogs, leaving 3 estates denuded of livestock.
When he died in his early thirties on 11 Apr 1562, he left his widow with at least 6 children under 21. His will, which he made before going on the St. Quentin campaign and to which he added two codicils, in 1558 and 1562, required his wife, if she married again, to give a bond of £2,000 to carry out her duties as executrix. The 13 overseers to whom she was bound received a total of £72 plus expenses. The executrix was compelled to sell all the household goods to pay debts amounting to over £3,000. Strangeways left 1,000 marks to his daughter Anne on her marriage and 600 marks to a younger son. Among numerous charitable bequests were some to poor prisoners at Ilchester and Dorchester, and to the lazar-house of Bridport. There is an EFFIGY of him in plate armour at Melbury Sampford church)

She m2 Sir John Young 1589 +++ MP, of The Great House, Bristol, son of Alice Hugh Yonge of Bristol
Children - 1 son & 2 daughters
1. Robert b 1571 (On attaining the age of 21 years in 1591, he inherited his father's real estates, except the Manor of Hazelbury and the Advowson of the Rectory of Abbotsbury, which Sir John in his will states he had purchased to his wife in redemption of her jointure, and which Sir Robert inherited after his mother's death. When knighted in April 1604 he was living in Somerset. Earlier he was of Haselbury, Wiltshire. Robert Younge's lifestyle was dissolute and resulted in him mortgaging family property in the 1590s and being forced to sell it in 1603. Having issue, he may have been twice married)
2. Jane m John FitzJames 1625
3. Margaret m Nicholas son of William Boteler of Great Badminton

On the left is the arms of Young / Yonge of Bristol: Lozengy argent and vert, on a bend azure two ibex's heads and necks erased of the first
On the right the arms of Strangeways
At the top is the crest of Wadham, a rose argent leaved vert seeded or

+++ Will of Sir John Younge merchant of Bristol, Gloucestershire 26 November 1589 PROB 11/74 "of the city of Bristol, Knight", made his will on the 5th January, 28 Elizabeth (1585-6).
"To be buried in the Cathedral of Bristol at the upper end of the quire on the right hand, amongst the seats there/with a vault under the same, by the right pattern of the tomb of Alderman Bonde in St. Ellen's Church, London. To Dame Joan my wife my dwelling house in Bristol, she to live in it 5 months every year ; mentions his son Robert Younge, under 21, my Manor of Haselbury, Wilts, Rectory of Abbotsbury, Dorset, which I purchased to my said wife for her jointure". Appoints Nicholas Wadham and George Snigge his executors ; mentions his two daughters (without naming them) and his sister Margaret Martyn.

Will of Dame Joan Younge, Widow of Bristol, Gloucestershire Date 07 February 1604 Catalogue reference PROB 11/103
...described "of Bristol, Widow," made her will on 1st April, 1603, gives £150 for her funeral, poor of Abbotsbury £20, my son Nicholas Strangways, my daughter Ann Bridgman, my late husband Sir Giles Strangways, Joan Buller my daughter's child, my daughter Boteler. To my daughter Fitz James a silver bason worth £20 ; to my daughter Lady Elizabeth Berkeley a cup worth £10; my brother Nicholas Wadham, Esq. and Nicholas Strangways, my son, Exors
Codicil ; to Peregrine Young £200, at 23, after the decease of my son-in-law John Fitz James, Esq., and of my son-in-law Nicholas Boteler, Esq".

*** Her daughter Anne Bridgman's Will mentions being a widow, and a monument at Colledge in St Augustine Green she has built, daughter Judith Bisse, her son in law Edward Blisse, his daughters Judith, Grace and Jane. Elizabeth Young daughter of Sir Robert younge by his first wife, Peregrine Young the son of my brother Sir Robert Young, Joan and Francis Boteler daughters of my brother in law Nicholas Boteler. Nicholas Young the son of my brother Sir Robert Young, Elizabeth Boteler daughter of Nicholas, sister Margaret Boteler, Florence Bisse daughter of my son in law Edward Bisse brother Fitzjames and my sister his wife, cousin Dorothy Manning, cousin Grace Strangways, cousin John Strangways and his wife, George Norton and his wife, cousin John Strangways turning 21 shortly, her Grandfather Wadham, cousin Ann Norton,
ALSO late mother('s) will left unadminister(ed) by my brother Nicholas Strangways, deceased, monument to be erected in Bristol Church to the memory of my late mother"
HOWEVER: "A sumptuous monument was erected on the spot to their memory. This monument stood on the site of the interment until 1861, when, on the remodelling of the cathedral, it was pulled down, and the broken fragments are now lying in a room on the east end of the cloister. ......... The upper part of the effigy may now be seen in the heap of rubbish and in front were two knights in armour, doubtless representing her two husbands, kneeling at a faldstool, and beneath, on the front of the monument, were the figures of her children, four sons and four daughters kneeling at desks".

All later put together but 2 husbands missing ??

- Bristol Cathedral Somerset
fortunatusfamilia.com.au/getperson.php?personID=I03217&am...
www.tudorplace.com.ar/Bios/GilesStrangeways.htm
www.wikitree.com/wiki/Wadham-51
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Young_(died_1589)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giles_Strangways_(1528%E2%80%931562)
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