An hour after Typhoon Kong-Rey passed by

This time we were lucky it did not hit our area directly, but I just got paranoid about it and hid in my grandpa's village for a few nights. When I shot this scene it was almost nearing to Busan , South Korea.

Many Canon Nikon guys automatically assume that Sigma will always reverse-engineer to provide some lenses for the new CN systems.

Of course Sigma has the cameras and sure doing many tear- down stuffs just like LensRentals does. But it's questionable if they are going to reverse-engineer to provide lenses for RF and Z mount. After all, Sigma never bothered to offer any of their mirrorless lenses in Canon EF-M mount or in Nikon One mount even though EOS M is quite popular in Japan and Asia. Sigma offers 5 APS-C mirrorless lenses available in both E-mount and m4/3 mount, but not EF-M. Sigma also has 11 full frame E-mount lenses, and none of those are available in EF-M mount either.

Also remember that Sigma is now part of the L-mount alliance with Panasonic and Leica, and they will be making their own L-mount body. Sigma has confirmed that they will offer all their existing E-mount lenses in L-mount , plus some additional mirrroless only designs for the L mount platform.

This means the L mount team will have many lenses in a matter of a very short time, maybe even at the very launch they may have a quite respectable set of lenses.

And Tamron has also announced they would provide some of their D-SLR lenses for both the E and the L mount system soon. By contrast, they deliberately or not ignore the CN quite obviously in the last announcement here.

I think they've just calculated how much money they need to reverse-engineer the mount protocols and actually design lenses for the RF and the Z system and compared that money to how much money they may be able to earn if they try it and probably concluded it would not be worth the effort and investment.

In case of Canon R ,they may still try since it is officially a closed mount system but Canon will not sue them even if they reverse-engineer to provide some lenses in the Canon mount.

They know it from the DSLR era. But Nikon will definitely sue them and in order to do it easily they have incorporated the dual serial interfaces into their new mount design.
Sigma has lost a serious amount of money from the court trial against Nikon. And now they are really bitter to Nikon.

Sigma has repeatedly told us," unless Nikon decides to open up their mount architecture and legally license it to us, we will never try it again. We did not lose the case(Nikon lawsuit against Sigma) , but it costed us a lot of money to fight against Nikon at the court."

Cosina said similar thing a several times in 2017,

So I guess the Nikon Z may get the least thirdparty support and that may hurt them big time in sells.

Many DSLR guys automatically think the CN domination of the DSLR camera world will repeat itself again and again.

But the mirrorless game is a completely different ball game than the DSLR one, and their DSLR success story does not guarantee anything any position for them in the new mirrorless game. I think they may end up to be very small players with just 4 or 5 percent market share respectively, or the smallest players in the ILC business. They are not willing to change anything but still arrogantly believing their name alone is more than special enough to sell their very lackluster cameras. And many people never realize this but Nikon is the smallest company in the ILC industry with the least support from the major third party lens and software companies.

Why m43 is doomed 33: they cannot market anything they invented-- and it is really sad-the lack of professional marketing team is the real reason m43 is doomed. Sony steals all the hype from them even with crappy products announcements(updated 6)

Why only Sony/Nikon cameras hyped so much although almost they really invented nothing new or developed anything new or unique by their own?

Well I'd say it's because they are the only two companies to know how to use those YouTube crap video shills as their cheap instant marketing team.

When the Sony A7MK3 was first out all reviewers especially the notable prominent camera YouTubers were really raving about the Sony Eye detection AF and its accuracy as it would be a true game-changing feature that would really revitalize the slowly dying ILC industry.......they all said it just like a miraculous game changer.

Now , it's been about 7 months since the first A7MK3 YouTube junk vid came out online, and what do guys like Tony Northrup, who is known to be one of the most honest YouTube based reviewers say about the A7MK3 and D850 eye detect focusing?
Basically they are saying what I have said about 4 months ago when I wrote about how the AF of the two compared in real life:
Here you can see their experience after a relatively short experience with the Sony Eye AF.

youtu.be/j0l1DtMRJVo?t=44
They were syaing honestly about how they felt about the Sony Eye AF compared to their Nikon here since they are not overly optimistic about the AF of Sony so called Eye detector or whatever silly name Sony uses.
They said:
"they got 50% success rate with the Nikon, and about 30 percent with the Sony AF for extremely(I say excessively but it is my taste) thin DOF portraits that they usually shoot professionally."
Is it shocking to any one because so many camera forum experts and pundits claim it a game changer?
Is that a shocking surprise to someone who hears so much super hype about Sony A7 MK3 being superior for portrait work duo to its having excellent eye focusing with almost 100 percent eye tracking accuracy, and this couple gets in real world situations a different results than perfection? For the usual forum fanboys, sure it is, it(the poor results Tony got from the Sony) is really shocking to those fanboys.
But for real users of any system know about the weakness of his or her chosen system and I am sure any rational person knows and admits action AF is one of those weaknesses of Sony system........it does not matter how much you like or get emotional about the A7MK3, it is the fact and it's no secret that it is just an imperfect tool as all other cameras are.
A couple of weeks ago we met a guy complaining about how he was having trouble with his Olympus EM1MK2 and his Fuji XT2 and the eye AF did not work at all and trashed his gear instead of himself...although it was all his fault that I would call user error of some sort.
He asked us if he upgraded his Fuji and Olympus to the A7MK3, would his keeper rate for his daughter's piano recital get better?
We said no, if you want to get better lowlight focus , get yourself a Nikon D-SLR maybe D750?
It is a bargain camera at the current 1200 US or 128000yen price here.
Then, he thought we were cheating him and tried to sell him a dated camera of dinosaur although we were(unlike many lairs on YouTube or paid Sony loving shills online)just giving the realistic view and fact about low light AF performance of a few cameras he was talking about as his purchasing candidates.
So we cited him to the Tony's video, and he asked us:
"So should we expect the same poor results from the Nikon and the especially Sony as Tony and his wife got respectively?"
"So is the Sony A7MK3 AF that poor? Isn't it the second coming of the camera world according to many respected reviews?"
Oh well, what can I say ?

First of all, there is no respected reviewer on YouTube world.

Second of all, the A7MK3 is just an iterative update body to the mediocre A7MK2 , nothing special, so what do you really expect from it?

Third and finally, you should practice and study how a particular camera AF system performs and behaves in real lowlight before taking it to an important venue like your daughter's piano concert.

Sony has been praised by the old users of DSLR(mostly ex-Canon or ex-A mount users), new users to photography, etc, without much of other system experiences, and many paid shills like Jason L and Gary F,etc.
And if you criticize them for anything , you immediately become one of those anti-Sony cult members, and crucified as a Canon or Nikon fanboy or an ignorant moron in many camera fora.
So there is no freedom of expression of anything honest about any Sony or Nikon camera....all those negative views on them or thread locked immediately if you so desire to post post one at DPR or anything like it.

But the fact is the on sensor PDAF is not great for any serious lowlight work yet, and it is something to do with its very innate nature of design of each of the PDAF sensors on any typical Sony CMOS chip. And as such, it will be very difficult to design any OSPDAF system as good/ reliable as the best DSLR AF for lowlight action tracking work. But , in the ILC world ,any one cannot speak about the truth about the poor low light performance of the Sony OSPD AF system in the A7X(even in the latest ones). They'll delete or shut it up as a moronic trollish post thread or they will lock the entire thread if any one starts how lousy the Sony A7MK3 AF really is in real lowlight venues, or anything negative about it. By contrast, in many ways m4/3 system designed by Panasonic have been really pushing technologies forward, like how well Panasonic already implemented sophisticated face detecting AF tech in 2011, and not just that but as well face recognition AF? But oddly enough, no one in camera forums or YouTube world talked about it.
Here's a Panasonic 's own promo vid on YouTube describes about it and it was from 2009.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=aspn-igfEUU

And what is the thing here? A tiny camera with not just face detection (system that detects face based the color, shape and the position of eyes) that can be used, but as well the face recognition (system that compare detected faces to faces stored in the memory to find a match for IDed person).

So what this tells us?
The face detection and recognition AF was supposed to be first invented and introduced by Sony according to many pundits and even by DPR like(normally respected) sites. But the fact is they came out with it about 6 years after Panasonic and a several years after Olympus.

But Sony gets the all hypes and credits for it, isn't it a bit strange?

Panasonic invented that tech and Samsung made it even better and then Olympus copied it, and about 4 years after that, Sony decided to copy it into their A7R2. Now Fuji and Canon are copying that too in their latest offerings.
So Pana was at least 6 years ahead of Sony in terms of face recognizing AF, but no one talked about it for them...

Now we have to admit one of the best presentations of that Fece Detecting AF tech comes from Sony YouTube shills. I think Gary Fong described it best and Jason Lainer also described it well.

The main difference between the Gary's video and the Pana's promotion video from 2009 is that Gary (or Jason) takes the technology and applies it for a given context, a situation where he would actually get the best benefit from the tech and shows it very well to all kinds of people might be interested in that kind of automated camera tech. The Panasonic video did not do it well.

When the A7MK3 was released, all of a sudden it got hyped as well with the so-called game changing face and eye detection tech by guys like Jason Lainer(Ex Sony shill, now fired by Sony) and other obviously paid Sony shills in extremely exaggerated ways.
I want to post his video here too, but I do not think it's right to do it here, and honestly I do not want to promote his video here. I dislike him and all of his kind of so-called reviewers on YouTube. They are very misleading.
So I would not do it here. But you can simply Google it.
We do not see that kind of exaggeration of any camera tech, pure hypes and pure lies in any other brand related marketing materials even in those for Canon, Zeiss and Fuji, etc.

And the kind of videos Jason or Gary promotes on YouTube is the style that generates lots of overly positive but dishonest hypes for something they review ,even for pure craps like the original A6000 or the A77.

So many naive gear heads believed that the A6000 AF was indeed class leading in its time.

And many forum experts told us that it'd even beat the D7200 or D500 in lowlight action tracking. But now, even the most naive forum gearheads know it was not the case, and the A6000 AF was actually one of the very worst even at the time of its launch. I mean maybe it was very snappy in almost ideal light conditions, but once the light level got down to less than ideal level, then it'd just hunt hunt hunt forever.....pure junk.

I know that since I bought it because of the super AF hype for it I read in the LL forum in 2014.

Do we see that for m4/3 system or Fuji or Canon M?
No, almost never.
For non-Sony or Nikon system talk, it is usually goes like below:

People start talking about something very interesting or innovative feature that say m43 has or Fuji gets.
It is usually something like 4K video or V-log related feature that may attract some V-loggers or forum gearheads. But then a few guys(usually some of Sony or Nikon FF cult members) talk about the sensor size issue and that shut up any positive voices for the m43, the Fuji X , the EOS M......

It is really silly and annoying but the gearheads camera gear fora always work this way.

Same thing is happening with the D-SLR AF systems, the latest from Nikon is always promoted as a sort of perfection of a given generation and each time a new Nikon FX model comes out , the newer AF system gets hyped up to the point it is a game changer will surely obliterate all the other older AF systems in any camera system to annoy all non-Nikon fanboys away from the article or thread.

The latest Nikon AF in the D5/D850 was hyped like that, and before that the D810/D750 AF was hyped like that, and it is supposed to be always radically dramatically better than anything from Canon and anything a bit older from Nikon itself.

But in reality, unless you are a pro wildlife or a sports shooter whose life is totally dependent on the best AF in the game, it does not make any difference in your life at all. The D810 and D850 AF systems are actually more similar than different in many ways.
But according to those shills and pundits it is a game changer or even life saver.....
Honestly, all those Nikons and Sonys are not much better than anything else like the best m43 AF system in the G9, the best Fuji AF system in the X-T3, but the reality only Nikon or Sony gets all the hypes and respect in the camera world.

So time after time every latest FF cameras get hyped to be a almost flawless game changer by so many shills and even by generally fair and honest DPR IR like sites, but even a truly interesting m4/3 offering like the G9 , or a Fuji like the X-H1 and a EOS-M model like the M 50 seldom get any respect-- no matter how well they are specified , they are usually mocked for the bit smaller sensor size. It is like fighting every fight is a lost fight for m43 and EOS M, sometimes even for Fuji X even before it's actually started.......

Even Canon D-SLRs are ignored by the majority of so called reviewers but they dominate the real life sells. Seriously, this Sony Nikon cult is getting really ridiculous, but I think they are actually very clever, doing all this and manipulating those so-called professional reviewers (nothing professional about them , though)for their marketing benefits.

It is a great and cheap way to market their products online indeed.

I think m43 should learn how to use those YouTube review community effectively for their benefits,just like Sony and Nikon always do.

Usually, Nikon has been criticized for its poor marketing skill and tech but actually Nikon has been pretty skilled at it but I think people who buy a D850 class of camera or even a D750 are not as ignorant or naive as letting the YouTubers to decide what he or she should get for their specific needs.

Now Nikon has launched its first FX mirrorless camera in the Nikon Z7, and now it is getting all the hype from DPR, IR, NR, MR, TH,PL,etc. It is really over hyped to the point we all feel a bit annoyed about it. Now many review sites recommending it over the A7R3 even though it now has only 3 native lenses.

Now ,all of a sudden, there is no reason to recommend the A7R3, which was hyped to be the best camera ever made by any online pundit or so-called reviewer until just a couple of weeks ago.....Now it is all about the Z7 and Z6, nothing else. It is getting a bit over the top, seriously!

This is really silly but it always occurs in the camera industry.
But in real world everybody knows the real threat to the A7R3 will not be the Nikon, it will be the Canon EOS R , but I am sure no one in the YouTube camera community will talk about it.

The camera sites all just ignore anything from Canon, Panasonic, Fuji ,etc. To them if it's not a Nikon or a Sony, it is nothing. They do not even really appreciate Zeiss, Voigtlander and almost seldom talk about them , either...........it is really odd.

I am really feeling something is really wrong about this industry, the hype and reputation of cameras at any respected camera site never match up well to the real sales numbers we get in the end of a year meeting here. I mean no Canon cameras get any good review or hyped by forums but they are still by far the dominant player.
And m43 is the technological innovator in this game but it never gets any credit for that and I feel very sorry for Panasonic and Canon.

But the good news is now Panasonic is going FF and I am sure it will change the negative consensus about their system since the new Panasonic FF will be a great camera system, probably one of the best hybrid(do motion and stills equally well) cameras ever made, at least matching to the Nikon Z7 in stills and way much better than the Nikon in video.

I think I was the very first person in the world to have predicted and written about "Panasonic must go FF and they will". But many many Sony Nikon lovers hated it and did not really take it seriously. What a big loss for them, but they always just want to believe what they want to hear or believe even if it is a plain lie like"the D850 sensor was produced by TowerJazz". So be it. Both the D850 and the Z7 are designed based around Sony sensor tech and even the processor is designed and fine tuned for that specific sensor design.
So there is not much Nikon about those cameras.

Anyway, IMHO, Panasonic is the most underrated lens and camera manufacture by far despite of the fact most of so-called camera innovations came from either them or Olympus, or Samsung before them, not by Sony or Nikon.

UPDATE: Now we know the actual sells numbers for this month and the last month at our shops and the rival shops here and the results are really surprising.

The no1 selling camera now is the D750 especially after the price for the Z7 announced. And the A7MK3 is selling better than before too, maybe because people got hugely disappointed with the new Nikon pricing strategy?

Another important trend I have write about here is that we have got so many A7R3 and A7R2 cheap from the people moving back to Canon or Nikon mirrorless for D-SLR system.

Also, now at the discounted price, the 5DMK4 is also doing very well.

After the last series of FF mirrorless announcements in last month, actually DSLR sells seems to be increasing quite a bit, and I think this is a sign of many people thought the Nikon Z7 and Canon R were a huge disappointment.

I do not think the camera itself was so bad , actually good, but the lens lineup is really lousy. And the Z7 is really overpriced. It is about 500 US more than the D850, and it has only 3 lenses currently. And the biggest issue with the Z7 as a system is the new adapter does not work well with many F mount lenses.

So how can Nikon expect to sell that body?

UPDATE2: Many people now know that both Panasonic and Olympus will go FF, but their approach to get there seems to be very different.

Olympus seems to be waiting a couple of years or so to see which one of the 4 current systems will survive. Then , they will finally decide what mount system to join or go their own- proprietary system. A big newspaper here reported that in last week. In their interview article,Olympus also says they do not know how it'll change after the dust settles, so they just wait to see how everything will change after the Leica Panasonic team work actually starts out in this winter.

And they also mentioned the new Panasonic sensor is actually more appealing to them than the Sony 45mp sensor used in the Nikon Z7 because the new Pana chip runs cooler and they think it is more power efficient. So they will have to wait to see which sensor team will win Pana or Sony or maybe Canon as they have been investing more money than any one else on sensor fabs recently. Canon has renewed their sensor fabs recently and they did many times already(at least a several times in the last couple of years or so). So maybe Olympus is right, Canon may eventually win the sensor race.
If that actually happen, then many Sony fanboys would try to switch to either Panasonic Leica or Canon R system.
Olympus seems to be very much concerned about the Sony E mount will become the losers' system then.
But even if Canon eventually wins the sensor race, Sony will always have more lenses, more flashes and more accessories of any kind since Sony has the big 5 year time advantage.
So I think both E mount and R mount will be fine for at least a few more years.

Panasonic's approach to this matter is clear they focus on a tough hybrid FF camera system and make the risk smallest possible by joining the already existing mount.

Panasonic also says they will also keep using EF mount for some pro video cameras. And everybody in Japan knows Pana and Canon are close friends and they are not close to Sony and Nikon. Olympus is close to both Panasonic and Sony. Actually, most of people here already knew that even before the news paper article. What many people do not know about Olympus is actually they are very close to Fuji and having run many joint projects in medical area.

So it is possible Olympus may work with Fuji, Pana-Leica team, Sony or Canon for their inevitable FF system.
One thing we all know for sure is they will never work with Nikon since Nikon always hates Olympus as it is the biggest rival in their scientific lab optics business.

As for the new FF mount sells, it is really clear a big loser seems to be Nikon. Honestly, after the Panasonic Leica Sigma announcement and Zeiss's new exciting camera launch, no one talks about the Z any more.

We've got many people canceling their preordered the Z7.
By contrast, the R is doing quite well, it is the current no 1 selling FF body world wide. But what really surprises me is that the majority of the R buyers are adding it in addition to their Canon EF system or Sony FE system. IOW, they seem to be going triple mount system to try to avoid the risk of becoming a victim of a loser's mount system.

I think it is the safest way to play the game for now,but I also think they should at least wait for the new Pana to be actually out in next Feb. I think the new Panasonic S1R will be amazing, and the Zeiss ZX1 is extraordinary, and it clearly shows us how anachronistic and wrongly designed all the current Japanese cameras are. These Japanese cameras really need a clean 21st century minded menu system.

So in any case m43 will survive for the foreseeable future, at least.

UPDATE3: Now we all know Thom Hogan is actually a avid Nikon fanboy at his heart. He seems to be strongly biased towards Nikon, I think his new articled called, 'The FF lens race' has just proved that.

In that article , he says Sony has just 26lenses and their lens lineup will grow to about 60 by 2021 or so, and it is including Zeiss Batis and Loxia line. In comparison he says Nikon will have the total 18 and they have the F mount catalog of total over 60 lenses that will work flawlessly on the Z. It is a huge lie, and not very fair to fair to Sony , Pana and Canon. Since the FTZ adapter does not work as well as Sigma or Metabones plus Canon EF on Sony. Or Canon's own ETR adapter, which really works well without any issue with their EF lens lineup, plus it has a drop-in filter.

He also says Canon will have 12 lenses or so by 2021, and it is what he is guessing. I think if Nikon can crank out an incredible set of 18 lenses in just a matter of a couple of years , then Canon will make more lenses than that since Canon is about 13 times larger than Nikon.

If anyone thinks otherwise, I think he/she cannot deny he is a Nikon fanboy, or fangirl, at least as with many famous camera commentators, he/she is strongly biased towards Nikon.

In addition to that, Mr. Hogan also says both the Canon R and the Nikon Z can just use their respective old mount existing lenses flawlessly.......it is not true.
Canon can do that, but Nikon Z needs new more sophisticated Sony A to E type adapter with SLT tech or something similar to fully utilize all the past Nikkor lenses with mechanical aperture lever in the mount.

And he really underestimates Panasonic Leica team, and he definitely thinks they will be a less interesting or less influential mount system than the Nikon Z.

I do not agree with him on that at all, the Panasonic has tremendous potential with the new organic sensor, which will come in their Pro body sometime in 2019 or 2020.

Plus, unlike Nikon, they have global shutter and 8k tech in- house and it is a huge edge over Nikon since Nikon is the only one in the FF mirrorless players not have it or have no access to it.

Global shutter is the next biggest thing in FF mirrorless game and Sony , Pana and Canon all have it in-house and Nikon does not. If he is honest, he should not call CN or CaNikon since Nikon is just too small to call a rival of Canon now.
If his 'the lens race' article had been written in the early 2009 or so, I would have understood why he used the term,'CN'.
Nikon was huge at in late 2009. But they have failed to keep that huge 32 percent market share they got with the D700/D7000 duo.

I mean Nikon's ILC share is just 23 percent globally today and Canon over 49.3, and they are about 13 times larger than Nikon in terms of revenue.

This CN or CaNikon notion Nikon fanboys push through over a decade or so is really an outdated term and should not use the term any more. It is now Sony vs Canon vs Panasonic L mount alliance, and it is really difficult for Nikon to compete well with those much bigger companies than they are.

Any even a bit rational person can see it. Of course, Thom knows it, he is not stupid. But he has chosen to dismiss it because most of his readers are Nikon fans and so is he himself.

When Sony was the only one in the game, he said no adapters or adapted lens solution would not do anything for any serious work, and all the adapted lens solutions for the E mount system. But now he is saying the Nikon Z already has over 60 plus lenses(at the very launch of it) because it can take all Nikkor S and E lenses. Isn't this logic very contradicting to what he has been preaching about Sony lens lineup? He has said, "Any one buying into the E mount eco system should focus on the native lenses, any adapted lens solution is just a temporal thing." But prizing the Nikon Z for its easy adaptability of the Nikkor legacy lenses.
If Sony or Canon or any one needs an adapter solution, he trashes it. But if it is a Nikon, then forgiven or even prized for it. It is really amazing how contradicting he has become and some other Nikon fanboy reviewers like Lloyd Chamber has also saying similar things over and over again.

They should be a bit more consistent and trying not to be contradicting.

UPDATE4: Now we all know that Canon Nikon new FF mirrorless cameras are both doing not that great , as many of us predicted. Nikon has already started discounting the Z7 price and now it is about 20 percent cheaper than it was in the second week of the last month October 2018.

Even after the usually fast huge discount, it is still not selling well here. The Canon EOS R is also not moving fast because most of potential EOS R buyers now know they will announce something bigger more interesting at CES or CP+ show next year. But at least the Canon is selling better than the Nikon Z7, as opposed to all those DPR spec sheet obsessed experts predicted.

And we think the main reasons for that are:

1 the EOS R is significantly cheaper , especially if you just use existing EF lenses with the perfectly designed EOS E to R adapter. The Canon adapter costs only about 9800 yen with the drop-in ND filter.

2 the Canon is more practical as a system. The R can take all the EF lenses since 1987 without any serious compatibility issue. The Nikon Z cannot say the same, it can only use the E line of the expensive Nikkor without any issue. It can take the G line too, but the AF functionality and speed of the Z will be severely compromised when used with the G or D line lenses. So there are not many lenses the Z can take without any usability related issue.

3 the Nikon F to Z adapter costs much more than the Canon EF to RF adapter. And the Canon adapter comes with a clever drop-in ND filter.

4 the initial lens lineup of the R is more practical for any CN based wedding or any event /documentary photogs.

5 In Nikon land the majority of people seem to still prefer the D850 since it is more matured with many more lenses and accessories available.

Many Nikon fanboys claim how good the Z7 and the D850 really is at base ISO(at least) and many of them trash the Canon R for having a bit worse sensor with respect to sheer resolution and DR at base ISO.
But all Nikon advantages they claim the Z7 has over the Canon R are borrowed techs from Sony or Panasonic.
There is not much Nikon about it in that body, or even in the D850 that all Nikon fanboys raved about before the Z7.

And even we admit the sensor of the Z7 is better than the Canon R sensor, the difference is really minor, it is more like an academic study case rather than a practical difference.
The DR of the R and 5DMK4 sensor is just about less than a stop worse than the Sony sensor in the Nikon Z7 at the very base ISO. And from ISO 200 or so they are all basically identical in terms of DR and color sensitivity.

Also, many people read Japanese camera industry news already know it but many Western camera medias decidedly dismiss is that Canon has renewed their CMOS plants(in 2017) and expanded their production capacity(in 2017) because they know they need more sensors for automobile and robotics business they own and also for security camera use.
In addition to that, some news papers here have reported they would sell many types of sensors for industrial use including car, security, robotics and airplane.

Panasonic has also announced their first mass production organic sensor based 8k cinema camera is coming very soon.
It will be very expensive, not affordable to most of potential FF mirrorless buyers for sure. But the point is the 8k and organic sensor tech will start trickling down to consumer grade bodies soon after the 2020 Olympics.

This means now Nikon is the only one still using the borrowed sensor tech and that will severely restrict them in many ways.
If the' Nikon will start using TPSCo sensors soon' rumor is true, then Nikon will be fine, but if they will keep depending every single core tech of their cameras on Sony , then they will have no future. Plus, many online camera sites never seem to realize this very fact but Nikon is the smallest camera company of all and least diversified one, it is a big concern for them.

I think the future of the Z system looks very bleak, and I am afraid it may be ending up to be another failed attempt from Nikon just like their Nikon One system.

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